"DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti) 04/15/2019 at 16:46 • Filed to: None

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Nick Has an Exocet > DipodomysDeserti 04/15/2019 at 16:54

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Just... wow. I was there in December but didn’t go inside because the line was too long. I’m kind of shattered now. I thought I would get a second chance. 

ttyymmnn > DipodomysDeserti 04/15/2019 at 16:55

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I am literally sickened by this. My wife and I traveled to Paris in the late 90s. While so many tour groups streamed through Notre Dame de Paris with hardly a glance, I stood there, feeling so very, very small, as the weight of centuries of history pressed down on me. I can’t even watch or read  the news. This is a profound loss.

LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > Nick Has an Exocet 04/15/2019 at 16:56

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I walked through the square in September, and similarly didn’t care to get in the extremely long lines. I’m not shattered, but I have a bit of regret. (If I knew then that this would happen . . . I’m still not sure if I would have gotten in line.)

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > DipodomysDeserti 04/15/2019 at 16:58

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It’s crazy that it survived the blitz and bombings but not a restoration.

7:07 > DipodomysDeserti 04/15/2019 at 17:00

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I’m listening to a recording of the grand orgue (with Pierre Cochereau at the helm) and choir at Notre Dame. At the beginning of the album they ring the great bourdon “Emmanuel”. They only ring that bell during big events: coronation of kings, visits from the Pope, during times of sorrow and drama and such. It was rung at the end of WW1 and WWII. *  I can’t help but believe it would have been rung today if it had been a different building afire.

It’s hard for me to believe this is all happening. I’m almost positive the two organs there are lost. This a heartbreaking day for everyone.

*all taken from the N.D. wiki page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_de_Paris

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > DipodomysDeserti 04/15/2019 at 17:04

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Huge loss...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > 7:07 04/15/2019 at 17:05

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Terribly sad. Was thinking about the stained glass, but didn’t consider the organs. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 04/15/2019 at 17:06

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Not that crazy that it survived “the blitz” given it is located in France, not England.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > ttyymmnn 04/15/2019 at 17:08

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Truly.

I think context is hard for Americans. One hundred years seems like a long time here. The cathedral was built in 1163...

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > DipodomysDeserti 04/15/2019 at 17:09

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The French just announced the structure survived. Seems like the stone vaulted ceilings held.

Edit: you can see in nicks picture that the fire burned on top of the vault but didnt seem to compromise it. 

ttyymmnn > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 04/15/2019 at 17:12

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This cathedral was more than just a church. It  was the heart of a nation. And my heart is broken. I think Americans might understand if the Capitol in DC burned down. I feel sorry for anybody whose souls is barren enough to make jokes about this.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > ttyymmnn 04/15/2019 at 17:17

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This really gives you a sense of it:

https://twitter.com/Inaki_Gil/status/1117868382785802242

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 04/15/2019 at 17:18

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What is truly depressing is that I feel like this can be said about literally any structure in Europe that pre-dates 1945.

Martera Castle, Spain
Spilberk Castle, Brno, Czech Republic
Prizen Castle, Balkans, Kosovo
Tower of Pfarrkirche St. Johann Baptist in 1946
Tower of St. Maria Magdalena Church in 1993
The Historical Archive of Cologne
San Giuseppe dei Falegnami

ttyymmnn > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 04/15/2019 at 17:18

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I don’t even want to look.

7:07 > Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) 04/15/2019 at 17:21

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Great news.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > ttyymmnn 04/15/2019 at 17:22

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It’s a crowd of French citizens signing hymns as they look on.

It is a national day of mourning.

In today’s world, I’m just thankful that it appears to be an accident, and not an act of terror. 

Darkbrador > Nick Has an Exocet 04/15/2019 at 17:24

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Yo u will. The fire destroyed the roof and severely damaged the towers, but the structure is apparently safe. They’ll rebuild it ... 

Thomas Donohue > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 04/15/2019 at 17:32

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Thank you for sharing that. There are a few similar videos out there, but that one is by far the best I have seen.

ttyymmnn > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 04/15/2019 at 17:33

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If I could, I would be singing with them. Thanks. 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Thomas Donohue 04/15/2019 at 17:38

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You’re welcome. 

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > DipodomysDeserti 04/15/2019 at 17:55

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It’s sounding like the main structure has survived, the losses of the rose windows are terrible, but the overall loss may not be completely devastating.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/15/2019 at 17:56

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Which is why it’s more surprising, given that Imperial Germany introduced themselves to France with this:

The Pariser Kanone, which did in fact, fire at Paris. And destroyed the St Gervais et St Protais Church. And a bunch of other stuff.

Thomas Donohue > Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) 04/15/2019 at 18:04

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Just reading that as well.... the stone structure appears to have held up. Reuters has some good info- graphics. I’ve also read that many works of art were removed for renovation, I hope that’s true.

A great read here from National Geographic....it’s been updated with today’ s news.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/archaeology-and-history/magazine/2017/05-06/notre-dame-de-paris/

Spanfeller is a twat > DipodomysDeserti 04/15/2019 at 18:44

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As long as no one listens to Trump’s idea. 

ranwhenparked > DipodomysDeserti 04/15/2019 at 19:23

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Let’s just hope France doesn’t use the same contractors as Haiti or New Zealand, so that  this actually gets rebuilt within a normal human lifetime.

shop-teacher > DipodomysDeserti 04/15/2019 at 19:27

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I was terribly sad to hear about this, but extremely relieved to hear the overall structure survived.

facw > DipodomysDeserti 04/15/2019 at 19:47

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facw > Spanfeller is a twat 04/15/2019 at 19:49

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This is almost always good advice.

DipodomysDeserti > facw 04/15/2019 at 20:13

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That’s rough to see. Looks like the photo was taken from the same spot I took mine.

DipodomysDeserti > ranwhenparked 04/15/2019 at 20:16

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Yeah, or those Catalan ones. Those guys take forever.

DipodomysDeserti > ttyymmnn 04/15/2019 at 20:21

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Same. When I got the BBC update on my phone it gave me the same feeling as when the Bataclan massacre happened. I’ve visited Paris a few times, the last being after said massacre, and Notre Dame is one of the few man made things that has taken my breath away.

I’m not a Christian, but the place gives you the sense of searching and connectedness all humans have with the spiritual world. It’s a truly awe inspiring place. Every time I’ve visited I’ve just sat for an hour and taken everything in.

Nick Has an Exocet > Darkbrador 04/15/2019 at 20:30

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Yeah, unfortunately, I have a thing for antique ceilings ;)

Seriously, if you want to see some impressive ceilings, H urst Castle is astounding. The guy imported antique ceilings from Europe. That’s unimaginable money.

Spanfeller is a twat > facw 04/15/2019 at 20:31

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Nothing like dumping tons of liquid fire retardants on a faulty structure in one of the most densely populated cities in Europe.

Just the burns from that...

ranwhenparked > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 04/15/2019 at 21:27

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Does anyone know which rose window was destroyed? Hopefully not the north one - IIRC, that still has some glass dating back to the 1200s. 

DipodomysDeserti > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 04/15/2019 at 22:30

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That mostly had to do with the French government not  defending the city. The Germans only real bombing of Paris was the Citroen factory. The Allies mostly bombed the working class areas.